and from new hampshire senator kelly ayotte, obama care is still a mess. it's not a mess to people who can finally afford insurance, who are getting free preventive care, who aren't being discriminated against because of pre-existing conditions. but they don't think about that. they focus on attacking the president. >> i don't know how you fix the many fundamental problems of this program. >> this thing is going to be an unmitigated political disaster for the president. >> this really feeds into the president's competence. that's really the question now that people have. is the president competent to do his job? >> here's the question. here's the question people really have. just how desperate is the right. they didn't want this law to work, didn't want it to help people, but it is. so how much longer can they keep up these attacks? it's working. and they're the ones losing. joining me now are congress woman jan schakowsky, democrat of illinois, and salon.com's joan walsh. thank you both for being here. >> thank you, reverend al. >> congresswoman, your rep